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Al Jazeera America
Dec 8, 2013 8:00pm EST
operation since apardth d apartheid. it raised questions about the country's leadership and power of the anc which was once unquestionably a party of the peel. with more, mike hanna in johan he johanesbur g. >> prayers for a man who touched the lives of all. an awarenets of challenges to come. the growing death between rich and poor is the most brutal reminder that mandela's promise of a better life is still to be realized. >> i think the challenge we have doesn't necessarily need man dela. it needs us in south africa to face the reality if we don't do something very logical, the why unpeople are going to revolt because if they remain poor, and a few become richer, the young people will revolt. if the fault lines within south african society have been too clear in recent times, a labor dispute that resulted in the killing of more than 30 americana last year. many argue the root cause of such violence is an africans national congress government that has lost touch with those who put it in power. >> if you look at what has been happening over the last few years in terms of public violence, you
Al Jazeera America
Dec 8, 2013 11:00pm EST
grew up in a south africa divided by apartheid. >> the anc has two options, continue doing same, which is the political party it is now, or it can make itself into a party of the 21st century. so it has to think about the young voters, the people who were born after apartheid, born even in the 1990s who are now the youngest voters in south africa, those are the voters that it has to create a strategy for, the voters they have to convince to go to the polls and vote. >> this is a crossroads isn't it? >> yes, it is a crossroads, it cannot claim just to be the party that liberated south africa, it has to create more positive claims. >> it can't rely on nelson mandela and its history. >> right. but it's about the history of libertying south africa from white rule. it is a history that doesn't build houses. it is a history that builds clinics and makes schools run. they have to try to put in place the kind of civil service that delivers that. >> because searveg has a lot of -- searve south africa has af problems it is dealing with. how much of that should be blamed on the anc, the ruling pa
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 5:30pm EST
of the anc, he goes to prison, and there is this transition. can you talk to us about nelson mandela during those prison years and that transformation. the think sing that he is both an inspirational and elegant sportsman. he is also a very practical politician. he has argued a peaceful change when that was possible, he considered that armed struggle might be necessary. he only opted the struggle in the early 1960's, and it was at that point that the south african government has banned the congress, if you were black, you could not vote, not even speak politically. even when he was released from prison in the 1990's, he did say, or he would not renounce the necessity in certain circumstances for using armed struggle. remember the south african military was threaten to have a coupe, and there was a good chance in 1994, instead of having an elected black majority, we may have seen a white racism military regime. it came very very close. >> professor, hang on, i can see ali velshi nodding here. >> yeah. professor remember in the negotiations leading to the first election, the white supremacist
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 5:00pm EST
. unemployment, and poverty continue to be real issues for the country, this many years now, with the anc, at the head of the political weather. >> you know, it is a combination of things. i think worldwide jobs, and labor, have -- it's a very difficult period worldwide for those but in south africa it is a place of great deal idealism, that's been cheated of it's democratic birthright in many ways. by corruption, by nepotism, and by lack of concern for those small people that have been called that nelson la used to understand were the bedrock of what makes a nation. >> well, and it is good to talk to you, greg. at this moment in time, i thank you for your insights and your thoughts on the passing of nelson mandela, and these are pictures from johan news burg outside the house. nelson mandela, the u.n. secretary general, was he making a statement of the passing, just let me know. let me bring in my colleague morgan ratford. lived and talks -- i did not know this, in south africa. morgan, what are your thoughts in. >> there was in 2010, i was there as a full right and i taught at the unive
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 10:00pm EST
to the anc, the same organization. my grandmother was also a political leader within the anc. >> and your grandmother then also was close to him and visited him in prison, and nelson mandela wrote her. >> several times, and my grandmother would write back. she told me she wrote so many letters, some of which never reached him. a few made it all the way and she put them into a book. and after giving them to the archives. >> having visited him in prison where he suffered, he it tuberculosis, problems with his eyesight. she must have seen the suffering. what did she say or what do you think about how he left prison and had the grace and indignity to invite the gaolers. >> at this point i have to d admit when she came back i thought she'd come back with a message of fighting. let's continue the fight. she said, "you'll be surprised, my grandson, nelson mandela is going to tell us all to reconcile, shake hands with our former enemies." he is convinced he'll be released. she came back convinced the man had not changed. he was for the policies and would reconcile. desmond tutu, the arch bishop a
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 10:00pm EST
to give a psychological boost to the struggle of the anc and it's cause. and it also helped to further undermine the integrity of the apartheid regime there. >> i think that much credit should be given to organizations like transafrica to the senate and on the house side who continued to push sanctions forward. i must say against stout resistance from the republican admissioadministration that wasn office under ronald reagan. >> thethey were important and ty helped support the struggle there. and to begin to discredit the apartheid regime internationally and in the eyes of many the current campaining against south africa is a fad and morale hoola hoop and fun for a while. was that mostly because of cold war thinking at that time? there was a feeling that the anc was communist? >> i think so. there were many politicians in the united states and globally in western countries who felt that the anc was in fact an off shoot of the south african communist party. that it was affiliated with the larger com communist movement globally. i think they misunderstood history and they misunderstood t
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 12:00am EST
. it was a process threatened by violence and the smile disappeared as the anc leader berated those he held responsible, including f.w. de klerk. for nelson mandela the process was never personal. >> we are not dealing with a man, with an individual. we are dealing with a government with a system. >> as a country was pushed and pulled towards democracy. nelson mandela and f.w. de klerk were awarded the "the new york observer." then on the 27th of april 1, '94. south africans of all political persuasions and colours went to the polls. among them nelson mandela voting for the first time. he became the president of a country in which he had been an outlaw. one in which he said the people now governed. >> on this day, you the people took your destiny into your own hands. you decided that nothing would prevent you from exercises your hard-won right to elect a government of your choice. >> after one term as president, nelson mandela did what few leaders in the contain anti did before, stepping down with humour and grace. >> the time has come to hand over. >> at the age of 78 nelson mandela tirele
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 6:00pm EST
declerk to reform the government had to play peace keeper, trying to temper escalading violence anc, and supporters of the freedom barty, who wanted no part of negotiations with the government that had helped him down for so long. thousands were killed in black on black fighting. also, his marriage to winny mandela, a powerful political force herself was crumbling, the woman who supported him so publicly during the long years of incarceration was accused of having affaired and being linked to some of the violence in south africa. they finally deviced. through it all, he led the country through broader democracy, and in 1984, he was able to vote for himself in a free election. he won, and was inaugurated as the first black president of his country. >> on this day, you took destiny into your own hands. you decided that would nothing would stop you from electing the government of your choice. country's infrastructure. he met the white house, meeting with three sitting presidents. in 2002 george w. bush presented him with the medal of freedom. president obama met mandela once in 2005, w
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 9:00pm EST
. because he became softer, that is not true. the policy of forgiveness reconsideration was always anc policy. so that it didn't take prison to do that. theory jet stream tried to plague down how badly it was treating the prisoners. this photograph was a staged event. >> you didn't know this was taken. >> no, we didn't know this was taken. >> the government was trying to make him think he was only doing light work, the prisoners had wondered why for one day only the laboring became easy, but it was to get tougher later, the laboring moved to what was an open lime quarry, 13 years of hard toll breaking rock, the dazzling reflection of white stone, damaging their eyesight. when they weren't laboring, they were sometimes allowed visits in this gloomy building, his second wife an activist herself came under a travel babb, one stage mandela waited two years between her visits. >> by regulation, there was a minimum of six months between each visit, and also by regulation, there was no contact. a screen between husband and wife, winny would sit on this side, the communication through a speake
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 11:00pm EST
mandela and te other anc lieder leaders who wee heavily influenced by them. the older men learned a lot by the youth that came into the island and it became an ep pi center of two give generations discussing how to end the apartheid government. that is why it's so significant in the nature of this country and the legacy of nelson mandela. >> it remained wi winnie's homer a number of years did nelson mandela ever go back to the house? >> he go he spent a short while here when he came out of prison. the first thing he did was come home where he was greeted by hundredses of thousands of people from this particular area his wife remained here for much of the time he was in prison. she was removed from the house and banished to a remote town hundreds of miles away from johannesburg both as punishment and to remove her and mande mans influence his daughter continued to remain in the house i. it gives you a taste to see how bad and repressive that they were at that time. and a 17-year-old daughter left to fend for herself in this house. >> describe the impact mandela and his policies had on th
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 10:00am EST
for a number of months. it was the armed wing of the anc of the they would gather and meet to discuss strategies, what to do and where to go next. nelson mandela was dedicated to speak to a senior anc member at that particular time. other members of the anc were here. 50 years ago. the police raided the farm. many were arrested. we had the trial, the moment in the country's history, the scene of his very famous speech. among those who would have faced trial was harold wolkey. he fled overseas into exile. his son, nic nicholas is now the trustee and he joins me now. nicholas, what type of legacy do you think has been left by these giants like mandela and others? >> i think the legacy that they have left comes down to selfless sacrifice. the desire to bring about a change, putting their own needs, their own wants, their own desires second for the cause to insure that a better south africa, a democratic free south africa where all south africas are equal regardless of race creed religion. they are personified those ideals, they carried forward those ideals not only in word but in deed. t
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 10:00pm EST
nelson mandela in college. they belonged to the same organization the a.n.c. my grandfather was also a political leader within the anc. my grandmother -- yes, go ahead. >> your grandmother also then was close to him, and visited him in prison, and he wrote her? >> mandela wrote her several times and my grandmother would write back, she told me she wrote so many letters that some of which never reached him. but a few of the letters made it all the way, and she put them into a book. and after giving them to the archives. having visited him where he summerly suffered, he had tuberculosis and problems with his eyesight. she must have seen that suffering, and what did she say or what do you think about how he then incredible grace and dignity to even invite his jailers to his inauguration? well, at this point, i have to admit that when she came back, i thought she was going to come back with a message of fighting let's continue the fight, she said, you would be surprised my grandson, nelson mandela is going to tell all of us, reconcile, shake hands with our former enemies. so she came bac
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 12:00pm EST
president reagan tried to veto sanctions. they called the anc a terrorist organization. however, democrats and republicans came together and imposed those sanctions as it was seen as a point of leverage trying to put some economic pressure on south africa to cf1 oapartheid and free nelson >> some real complexities there. libby casey thank you. ♪ >>> some encouraging news for jobs and the economy today, patricia sabga has the details of the much better than expected november employment reports. >> reporter: for the second straight month the u.s. job market showed signs of improve. the economy added 203,000 jobs in november lowering the unemployment rate to 7%. labor secretary says the numbers indicate the economic recovery is gaining strength. >> we have now had 45 consecutive months of private sector job growth to the tune of 8 million plus jobs. roorp while the numbers are encouraging, analysts say we still have a long way to go? >> to get to full employment we estimate the economy is going to have to create between 200 and 225,000 jobs per month for the next couple of years. >> reporte
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 1:00pm EST
that as a particular front, and i think that the way mandela operated certainly was present in the anc, was to provide influence people that he was on the right coarse. and if you weren't persuaded that was fine as well. so i always think of him as someone who didn't know his opposition as a club or a shield, he used it to try to unite the country. at our first meeting after he became president and i was elected leader of party in may 1994. he asked me to have breakfast in cape town, and he said, you know, toni, the opposition must hold up a mirror to the government. and we might not always like what we see in it, but that is a democracy. and he was pretty true to that. if you [ inaudible ] on certain toes of his organization, he was none too happy, but i think in the main he lived up to the ideals that he set out for the >> nelson mandela leaves a lasting legacy across the africa continent. let's hear from malcolm who has been speaking to a uganda journalist. >> we are outside of uganda's sports stadium. it was built in 1997 and it was named after nelson mandela. mandela visited uganda on several occ
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 5:00am EST
, was release all nt a.n.c. leaders, which were also an robin island, including governor mbecki. we were political opponens. we were opposing each other with regard to the potential vote when an election came up. secondly, mostly around the issue of ongoing political violent. tensions grew between us at times to high levels. at all times, notwithstanding the intentions, we found it possible to rise above them when approached by my negotiators to find solutions and prevent negotiations from stalling. nelson mandela - he was a very special man. i think nothing is being overplayed. i think he is held in high - the highest esteem. not only by the overwhelming majority of south africans, but worldwide. i think he's a towering figure of the past century. therefore, i think we should pay him the tribe ute and the honour which he'd like - lay the foundation his integrity, his emphasis on the need for reconciliation - all that make him the icon that he has become. >> a tribute from f.w. de klerk, a deputy president when nelson mandela became president. preparations to say farewell have been made
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 7:30pm EST
fantastic, so jail didn't hurt them. nelson mandela picked up that movement, at the anc. he was influenced by gandhi, and as that movement continues after gandhi went back to india, my family continues as part of the antiapartheid movement. and lost business as a result of they role. but we returned my family returned before the election, were were all given citizen ship. i am a sout african citizes well. and we have shared in this new beginning, which everybody looses hope in, but the fact is nelson mandela avoidedded a blood bath a civil war, and he create add remarkable nation. >> he spent time with the african national congress when it was in excite, stephen, give us your thoughts tonight. >> well, it is a very sad moment. this was a great man. it was true, in some ways her understated not just to dignity, and not just perseverance. but what he was able to exhibit when he took the country forward. there would be no rainbow nation today. i think he was essential for the progress of south africa to becoming what we would regard today as the civilized part of the world. >> obviously he ha
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 3:00am EST
on to robin island and into the prison where the a.n.c. leadership were reading it. when he came out of prison a message came to me and my colleague at the "weekly mail", that he wanted us to interview him - every journalist's dream, especially a young and shallow one like myself. we did so. he expressed surprise the newspaper he was taking so seriously was run by children, but the relationship developed from there. i was a political writer, political editor and editor of the various newspapers, and i enjoyed an incredible relationship, a life-changing relationship. i would never be presum tuesday enough to say i was an associate or friend. i had proximity and been in the room when things happened. i got a real insight into what i think is one of his underplayed qualities which was an incredible understanding of global politics and - so i worked -- >> then he asked you to set up the mandela rhodes foundation, designed to encourage exceptional leadership in the young of africa. how do you go about teaching leadership. what example did he give that you have taken to the foundation? >> well, i th
Al Jazeera America
Dec 9, 2013 2:00pm EST
to the standards of their white counterparts to give them both purpose and hope. >> the truth is the anc is la really struggled to fulfill nelson mandela's idealistic vision, school buildings are falling apart and crowding is rife. schools ton bleak cape flat south side cape town is more symbolistic of the system struggling with. activists argued there is a dangerous gap between promise of education and what it actually delivers. schools boast a 70% pass rate. but to graduate students only need 30% on their exams. a third of them won't be literate by the time they leave. >> and the end of the study about 50% of those young people have fallen out of the system. so it also has to do with the curriculum, it has -- also has to do with the kind of training that our teachers had during end today. >> so schools are still struggling with the legacy of apartheid, its burden stubbornly persistent, the burdens of the system much longer than nelson mandela ever imagined. peter gresta, al jazeera, cape town. >> again as mills around the world gathered to remember the man they knew as the father of south af
Al Jazeera America
Dec 5, 2013 11:00pm EST
and the anc and supporters of the inkata freedom party, who wanted no negotiations with the government that held them down. thousands were killed in black on black fighting. his marriage to winnie mandella, a powerful political force was crumbling. the woman who supported him during incarceration was accused of having affairs and being linked to the murderous violence in south africa. they finally divorced. through it all they led the country to broader democracy and in 1994 nelson mandela voted for himself in a free election. he won and was inaugust rated as the first black president of his country. >> on this day, you took your destiny in your own hands. you decided that nothing could prevent you from exercising your hard-won right to elect a government of your choice. >> he served one term, leading reforms in child health care and education. modernizing infrastructure. and healing. >> his close relationship with leaders like muammar gaddafi and castro drew criticism, he still visited the white houses meeting with three sitting american properties. in 2002 george w. bush presented hi
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 4:00pm EST
, disguised as a gardener. members. a.n.c. gathered here and the armed wing as well. nelson mandela met with them, they discussed the revolution and what country they wanted to have in the future. nelson mandela was away from the farm when it was raided by police. a large number of a.n.c. leaders were arrested and put into prison. nelson mandela was arrested on his way back to the form, the beginning of a long gaol sentence. he was accused in the robinia trial. the words that he spoke from the dock resonate on this particular day. he said, "i have stood against white domination. i have stood against black domination and cherish the ideal of a democratic society in which people live in harmony and equal opportunity." it's words that people celebrating the death of nelson mandela are cherishing. >> nelson mandela's home in sow is a central point for mourners. nick, i know it's late. what is the crowd like? is it growing? >> yes, it's huge here in soweto. there's about 1,000 people within a few hundred feet of me. there's restaurants to my left. it's a celebration of nelson mandela's life
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 8:00pm EST
. helping the u.s. do the right thing around apartheid. others felled no, nelson mandela is with the a.n.c., it was a terrorist organization so a.n.c. should not support. we saw on the ground an opportunity, an opportunity to make sure the u.s. embodied the best of its values as it related to south africa, making sure it did not support apartheid. >> talk about how nelson mandela influenced foreign state policy. >> an interesting thing is nelson mandela did not abandon friends. there's something i know, clinton talked about, he disagreed with nelson mandela on the issue of cuba and his relationship with fidel castro. nelson mandela did not forget his friends. they stood with him. making sure countries in africa could stand together and do what was in the best interests of their people, may not necessarily benefit all. all people around the planet knew that it is possible, that you can make the impossible possible. and that is what happened, and that is, to me, what his life embodied. >> that is why the world is remembering nelson mandela. >> thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >>
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 1:00pm EST
. the police raided this farm 50 years ago and arrested members of the anc. mandela was on his way back to his farm when he was arrested the by a roadblock, beginning the long, long prison sentence he served behind bars. man came to light candles and lay flowers. many events taking place, this is what a spokesman for the family has to say. >> on behalf of thema of of thea family, we have grave sadness for the passing of nelson mandela two days ago. >> the words of nelson mandela of what became known as the ra rabonia trial. he said i have stood against white domination. i have stood against black domination. i have always cherished a society of democracy where people can live in opportunity. >> racial integration is still a problem in south africa. after two decades an ever the end of apartheid we talk with an interracial couple in johannesburg to see the challenges they face. >> nelson mandela brough fought inequality, and now today couples don't have to hide their relationship but being a mixed race couple still has their challenges. >> people have accepted that we have merged, but not this
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 6:00pm EST
movement, that we do the right thing around apartheid. mandela, he's with the a.n.c., and some considered that to be a terrorist organization. we had solidarity with people on the ground. we saw an opportunity to make sure that the u.s. embodied the best of its values as it related to africa and that was to make sure that we did not continue to support apartheid. >> tell us about his influence on the united states policy. >> he did not abandon friends. for example, something that i know president clinton has talked about, he always disagreed with president mandela on the issue of cuba and on his relationship with fidel castro. president mandela was not one to forget his friends. he also had such an impact on the african union and creation of the african union, making sure the countries in africa could stand together and do what was in the best interest of their people. sometimes that would not be necessarily what was in the best interest of our countries. he really works to make sure that it wasn't just the people of south africa has benefited from the struggle but that all people around
Al Jazeera America
Dec 8, 2013 5:00am EST
opponent of nelson mandela once a member of the anc and once a leader of the abuntu home land. what does this tell you about mandela. >> when he talked to us i don't think he saw in me a leader. i think he saw one of his sons or a neighbor. the relationship between the two of us culminated into a number of issues. i ended up being tasked by him on handling some sensitive issues of him at home and installations of hit his grandsn and weddings and you will see everything is in order there it was a joy to work with him and i always consider myself to have been lucky that i was one of the few in this world who was working closer to this icon. >> now you remember too we are standing outside of his home. those years that this home was filled with tear gas and people were being shot. what role did mandela play in changing that from what it was then to what it is now. >> i think we should com come m from being bold. we walked from his home and then he says stop what you are doing. it's not in the interest of the black south africans that you are killing one another. and then after that he relat
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 6:00pm EST
africa membership of the anc, nelson mandela's organization, was a crime. his image was forbidden. his words from absolutely outlawed. even the possession of a coffee cup with his image on it was grounds for imprisonment. for all those years that he was in prison his image was absolutely obliterated. generations of south africans, grew up without knowing what he looked like, without knowing his speech or knowing his words. to know the absolutely joy that gripped the country when he and other african leaders were released from prison. here is somebody that had been spoken about in the quiet. that had been spoken about behind closed doors. anyone with support for him or his organization would mean imprisonment, banishment, and could mean and did mean in many cases, death. to understand the changes within this country one has to go back to that period of time when the person who's death and life is being celebrated at the moment was vilified, and regarded as subversive, regarded as a traitor to this state and many other states, and this shows you how time changes. south africans, in parti
Al Jazeera America
Dec 8, 2013 4:00pm EST
of the a.n.c. during the '60s, who died and perhaps was killed by the south african government. a person with home your viewers may be aware of steve, murderedered in 1977. >> as we move forward and look at south africa and the issues and problems do you feel the legacy and mess age has been >> the legacy, and it goes back to the same people who fathered the youth league. south africa must be a place in which there's self determination. it goes back to the congress, going back to all who lives within it, everyone that participates in the governing structure. >> thank you for your insight. we appreciate it. >> french president issued a veiled warning to the leader of the central african republic. francis hollande warned it would be tough to keep central african republic's president in place given the worsening violence. 400 bodies have been found in the capital in the past three days. 10,000 fled the city. everyone has been ordered off the streets bar peacekeepers and bars. some images from this report may be disturbing. >> french soldiers on foot patrol in bangui. this is new to the city
Al Jazeera America
Dec 9, 2013 1:00pm EST
then the anc has really struggled to fulfill nelson mandela's idealistic mission. overcrowding is rife. schools on the bleak south side capetown are more typical the system is troubled with. >> information technology. >> activists argue, there is a dangerous gap between the promise of education and what it actually delivers. schools boast a 70% pass rate but to graduate students only need 30% of on their exams. a third of them won't be literate by the time they leave. >> about 50% of those young people have fallen out of the system. so irt also has to do with the curriculum. it also has to do with the kind of training that our teachers had during the end today. >> so schools are still struggling with the legacy of apartheid, this generation is bearing the scars of the system much longer than nelson mandela ever imagined. peti gresta, al jazeera, cape town. >> the short list of the world football, surprises el madrid and bril brilliant in 2013, spog 16 goals for club and country. barcelona's are star has won this crown but argentina has been troubled by injury this year. midfielder, won the cham
Al Jazeera America
Dec 7, 2013 6:00am EST
economic and political waters. with the political icons demise the future of the a.n.c. is being thrown into question. mike hanna reports from johannesburg. >> prayers for a man who touched the lives of all. in the void left by nelson mandela's death, an awareness of challenges to come. the growing gap between rich and poor is a reminder of nelson mandela's promise of a better life is to be realised. >> i think the challenge we have for nelson mandela is to face the reality that if we don't do something for everybody, the young people will revolt, because if they remain poor and others are richer then they revolt. >> the fault lines within south african society is all-too clear of it was a labour dispute ruling in the killing of 30 at the mary carna mine -- marikana mine. many argue that the root cause was a government losing touch with those that put it in power. >> if you look at what happened over the last few years in terms of public violence, you can see that we have many, many people that don't feel represented by those in government. and the resort to violence is because we don'
Al Jazeera America
Dec 9, 2013 6:00am EST
and hope. >> the a.n.c. has struggled to fill full nelson mandela's vision. the system is crippled, school buildings falling apart and they have crowding. >> cape town is typical of the struggle. >> i wants to be a doctor. >> he wants to be an information technology. >> there is now a dangerous gap between the promise of education and what it actually delivers. schools boast a 70% pass rate, but to graduate, students only need 30% on their exams, a third of them won't be literate by the time they leave. >> in the end of the 12 years study, about 60% of those young people have fallen out of the system, so it also has to do with the curriculum. it has to do with the kind of training that our teachers had. >> schools are still struggling with the legend of apartheid. this generation is bearing the scars of the system much longer than nelson mandela imagined. >> the world economic forum of switzerland ranked south africa 146 out of one fought eight countries in education, ranking last in mathematics and science. >> officials in singapore are cleaning up after a riot. crowds attacked police and
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 7:30pm EST
power by any means necessary. so as a young man nelson mande mandela, founders of the anc, were revolutionaries. it was by any means necessary. i think that they would--we should look at it as a revolutionary. now where he was as an older man, as the president of his country, as someone who bought into this idea of capitalism and cooperation with the west, and how people fared after the turnover in government, this lack of redistribution of wealth that has not occurred in south africa. >> we're going talk about that. but talking about history. your family lived under apartheid in south africa. talk to us what that young mandela meant to south africa at that time. >> i think mandela represented a voice for people to stand up for what was inherently wrong. we cannot have a minority group oppressing. for me he was a political activist who stood up for what he believed in. and made it a point by any means necessary, even if it meant that he died, he would. so for me he was very powerful in being the voice and representing one cause that people could unify and follow. >> you used the
Al Jazeera America
Dec 6, 2013 9:00am EST
was what? >> well, it's a long time ago. in 1951 there was an anc african national conference, which was in the hot bed of the apartheid government up there, and there was a meeting which was the annual meeting which used to take place in different cities in johannesberg every year, and mandela was there, and he was there at that time appointed as the youth leader of the anc, and also as the volunteer and chief of the defiance campaign which had been decided up to -- to start next -- in the following year, in 1952. the people were extremely nervous at the conference, because they were worried that the -- the government or the africanas, the racists would start problems about them having a conference in their midst, in their capitol city, and except for mr. mandela, i photographed him and talked to him and found him terribly relaxed. >> did his personality -- his potential come through to you on -- on film in those early days? >> well, he was terribly self disciplined and calm. and this surprised me in comparison with all of the other leaders, rushing around like chickens and terribly
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Dec 6, 2013 1:00am EST
hold hands and realise the dream that nelson mandela wanted. >> the anc are having problems. they are not the anc of nelson mandela's scandals. there's corruption scandals, break away parties and they are dealing with a lot of things. poverty. the gap between rich and pure. where you are, standing in the street in sa wetto, examples of this very close to you. >> the street i'm in now is designed for tourists. a lot of money went into the area. they struesed up the place. turists have african meals, music and dance. it's a great way to remember nelson mandela, and for the country to earn money. the way people live here, some conditions are shocking. people don't have running water, electricity. there's huge unemployment here. a large amount of people who are jobless are the youths. they are acting questions to jacob zuma, to the a number of c, what are you doing about it. those are the issues being faced much the biggest thing on people's minds is the corruption scandal. it's alleged jacob zuma used taxpayer money po build his home. it is huge. it has a swimming pool. all sor
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